This post was influenced by two blogs that were recently posted on Active Rain. The first was Bob Haywood’s excellent post – How Did We Let This Happen??? Internet Real Estate Tough Talk . Although this blog was a members-only blog - it was about a mass email sent to agents from Zillow offering us all placement as a Zillow Premier Agent in the zip code of my choice. The only requirement was that I (and anyone else contacted) be willing to pay for the privilige. The second was Ron Tarvin’s blog Zillow named in a patent infringement lawsuit. Unlike Bob’s post, this blog was public-facing. So the members of the public might want to stop by and see what agents across the country actually think of the Zillow “Zestimate” – for those who feel that a Zestimate is a fairly accurate indication of home value, this should prove illuminating.
Disclaimer – There is no love-loss between Zillow and me:
Those who have been reading my comment threads on various forums know that I have absolutely no love for Zillow whatsoever. I consider their forums poorly monitored, and their Zestimates to be pointless bordering on the unethical since any number that is often off by 20% or more that the public tends to implicitly trust has the capacity to cause harm.
The fact that the Zestimate itself is inherently inaccurate doesn’t bother Zillow one wit. Their canned responses in Ron Tarvin’s blog regarding the lawsuit is a strong indication of same. They know the Zestimates are often way off the mark. They know it causes confusion within the public. They know this has the capacity to harm a seller. They know that agents tear their hair over inaccurate Zestimates that cause the public to put lowball offers on their listings. But they don’t care, because it was never about providing transparent information to the pubic. It was – and is – all about the traffic. If it drives people to their site, they simply could care less. The question is why?
For Zillow – it was never really about the consumer:
I have long suspected that Zillow’s whole point of being is to insert themselves between the client (either the seller or buyer) and the agent as a pointless middleman who has managed to glom onto real estate leads. Their target was never the consumer – it was always the agent and the brokerage. They have always wanted to charge agents in order to put them in front of buyers and sellers. Their entire site is set up as “bait” to acquire consumer information – phone numbers and email addresses – to sell to agents.
Checking out the Zillow Premier Agents:
This week they proved my hypothesis correct. Now, in addition to the pointless Zestimate they are promoting the equally useless list of Zillow Premier Agents to the consumer. Why is the list of preferred local experts useless? Because if you can pay – literally ANYONE can claim to be a local expert on Zillow – so long as they are willing to pay for the privilege. When I found out about the email (which I threw in the trash) I did a bit of research – and this is what I turned up..
- First I checked the address of a condo complex where I do a goodly number of transactions. The names of six agents popped up. I checked the MLS for each of these agents for the past year. 5 of the six had not ONE transaction in the complex. No active listings, no contracts, no solds as either a buyer’s or listing agent..no nothing. The sixth had one transaction under contract. In fact, there were agents on that list I had never heard of before. How does a list like this serve the public interest? It doesn’t.
- I then went to two zip codes where I am active but not dominant in any way. This was less specific in that in involved more than a single complex – but a town and a village. I ran through a bunch of listings in one particular village and came up with the following: I turned up 8 agents. Half of these agents had no sales or listings over the course of the past year. Nothing, notta, zippo….for four of these agents. Two of the agents had one transaction over the past year and only the final two had a significant sales history in the area.
- The town I studied didn’t fare any better. After viewing several listings, I turned up seven agents. Once again , four had no sales in the area over the past year The agent who was labeled as an area “specialist” had one sale under their belt. Another agent had participated in two sales over the past year. Only one had a significant sales presence in the area.
How do you differentiate between the agents that had a goodly number of transactions and those who didn’t? You can’t. In fact, using that criteria I could be Premier agent anywhere in the country – even if I had never set foot in that neighborhood or even that state.
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I agree wholeheartedly! I have told everyone for years these same things, but even my Bankers believe the site and they should know better.
Hi Robert,
Yes, it is totally out of control. It shows that if you market a turd well – it will sell.
I have had many conversations with the people at Zillow selling this product and have asked pointed questions as well as asking for customer references. They gave me the name of an agent in a nearby town as being very successful with the Zillow ads. I went to this agents site checked it out and ran some analytics on it. The site wasn’t anywhere to be found. I went to the MLS, there were no sales to support Zillow’s claims of agent success.
While on the phone with them I asked about the amount of traffic each zip code was receiving. My local blog was receiving more traffic on a daily basis than their zip codes were receiving monthly.
When I mentioned that their fees were high they offered to sell me 1/2 or 1/4 of a zip code. That equates to 1/2 or 1/4 of lousy traffic for a still very high fee.
So I started watching what agents were spending on the advertising in some of our better zip codes. None of the agents stayed more than 1 to 3 months. That means that after trying the service the agents dropped it. Of course they did, the amount of leads generated isn’t worth the price of the service and the leads weren’t converting.
The Zestimates are just a complete joke. Imagine using local condo sales to comp nearby waterfront estates which pull down the value dramatically! There is no replacing your local Realtor and appraiser!
I have certainly had may conversations with clients about Zillow and that it is not a source I recommend for determining home values. But it does not seem to change the fact that almost everyone “without a Realtor”, knows about it and uses it as a source of information. So, I decided to take Zillow up on showcasing a zip code for marketing my services in my farm area. Much to my surprise, after a while, the leads that were being generated out numbered any other source I use. It has MORE than paid for the fees that have been charged to me. So, even though I have to move much confusion surrounding the information, I have experienced much success with conversion rates from the inquires I get. (which is at least 25 a week.)Just to give you an idea of my last zillow lead, 815 credit score, $50k down- submitted a contract the 1st time out looking at homes after only 3 days of email communications….For me, success comes with quick response time, focused and client specific information in my responses, and answering my phone. As always, continued success to all my colleagues in the Real Estate industry. WE WORK HARD!
Vera Koon
Hi Laurie,
This is what the bulk of agents are saying. Although this new format may be different in that paying for it may cut down on the number of people using the service.
Hi Vera,
There are very few people for whom this works well for. It may be geography. My other issue is the ethics of being able to buy a spot while having NO expertise in the area. After all that agent who is considered a Premier Agent may no nothing of the inventory, may have violations pending on them – who knows? There is no screening process and that’s a problem.